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paul bernardo askarla's victim
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p***@excite.com
2007-08-08 21:27:58 UTC
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Has anyone proposed that Bernardo may have been more Homolka's victim
than vice versa? Karla's many apologies to Paul (in letters and
notes) have always been construed as evidence of her "compliant
victim" status. As one reads their content and lines that up with the
dates they are written, it begins to look more as if she is
apologizing for the murders, since Bernardo was living under the
delusion of (his words) "having a fantasy life of three-way sex in
which everyone was happy"(?). And as for Bernardo being a sexual
sadist, he does not meet the DSM-IV criterion for being such. He
does, however, completely satify the requirements for being an "anger-
retaliatory" rapist. Also, Mr, Bernardo would have to be most
tolerant sexual sadist in the annals of criminology to have allowed
his "compliant victim" (Karla) the latitude and freedom to critique
his sexual desires as being "f***ing disgusting", no matter what you
attribute that remark to. The homage to Tammy Lyn found 57 Bayview
is atypical of the sexual sadist, as is Mr. Bernardo beating himself
about the head and face in (granted) shallow remorse for the death of
Tammy Lyn. Anyone ?
t***@spamgourmet.com
2007-09-28 02:36:55 UTC
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Post by p***@excite.com
Has anyone proposed that Bernardo may have been more Homolka's victim
than vice versa? Karla's many apologies to Paul (in letters and
notes) have always been construed as evidence of her "compliant
victim" status. As one reads their content and lines that up with the
dates they are written, it begins to look more as if she is
apologizing for the murders, since Bernardo was living under the
delusion of (his words) "having a fantasy life of three-way sex in
which everyone was happy"(?). And as for Bernardo being a sexual
sadist, he does not meet the DSM-IV criterion for being such. He
does, however, completely satify the requirements for being an "anger-
retaliatory" rapist. Also, Mr, Bernardo would have to be most
tolerant sexual sadist in the annals of criminology to have allowed
his "compliant victim" (Karla) the latitude and freedom to critique
his sexual desires as being "f***ing disgusting", no matter what you
attribute that remark to. The homage to Tammy Lyn found 57 Bayview
is atypical of the sexual sadist, as is Mr. Bernardo beating himself
about the head and face in (granted) shallow remorse for the death of
Tammy Lyn. Anyone ?
you are probably right, but you need to support your argument further.
you still lack some evidence.
Murray Anderson
2007-09-29 13:16:33 UTC
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Has anyone proposed that Bernardo may have been more Homolka's victim
than vice versa? Karla's many apologies to Paul (in letters and
notes) have always been construed as evidence of her "compliant
victim" status. As one reads their content and lines that up with the
dates they are written, it begins to look more as if she is
apologizing for the murders, since Bernardo was living under the
delusion of (his words) "having a fantasy life of three-way sex in
which everyone was happy"(?). And as for Bernardo being a sexual
sadist, he does not meet the DSM-IV criterion for being such. He
does, however, completely satify the requirements for being an "anger-
retaliatory" rapist. Also, Mr, Bernardo would have to be most
tolerant sexual sadist in the annals of criminology to have allowed
his "compliant victim" (Karla) the latitude and freedom to critique
his sexual desires as being "f***ing disgusting", no matter what you
attribute that remark to. The homage to Tammy Lyn found 57 Bayview
is atypical of the sexual sadist, as is Mr. Bernardo beating himself
about the head and face in (granted) shallow remorse for the death of
Tammy Lyn. Anyone ?
you are probably right, but you need to support your argument further.
you still lack some evidence.
Bernardo's signature style was to express exaggerated grief and condolences.
He did this to my mother once over the death of an in-law about whom he knew
nothing. If people thought he was overacting they put it down to his
background, with a tendency to express grief more openly than northern
Europeans. Actually it was because he was a psychopath without any normal
response, so he had to act out, like professional mourners at Chinese
funerals, who do it better than the real thing.

Murray Anderson
Marc Wigle
2007-10-01 03:31:45 UTC
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Has anyone proposed that Bernardo may have been more Homolka's victim
than vice versa? Karla's many apologies to Paul (in letters and
notes) have always been construed as evidence of her "compliant
victim" status. As one reads their content and lines that up with the
dates they are written, it begins to look more as if she is
apologizing for the murders, since Bernardo was living under the
delusion of (his words) "having a fantasy life of three-way sex in
which everyone was happy"(?). And as for Bernardo being a sexual
sadist, he does not meet the DSM-IV criterion for being such. He
does, however, completely satify the requirements for being an "anger-
retaliatory" rapist. Also, Mr, Bernardo would have to be most
tolerant sexual sadist in the annals of criminology to have allowed
his "compliant victim" (Karla) the latitude and freedom to critique
his sexual desires as being "f***ing disgusting", no matter what you
attribute that remark to. The homage to Tammy Lyn found 57 Bayview
is atypical of the sexual sadist, as is Mr. Bernardo beating himself
about the head and face in (granted) shallow remorse for the death of
Tammy Lyn. Anyone ?
you are probably right, but you need to support your argument further.
you still lack some evidence.
Bernardo's signature style was to express exaggerated grief and condolences.
He did this to my mother once over the death of an in-law about whom he knew
nothing. If people thought he was overacting they put it down to his
background, with a tendency to express grief more openly than northern
Europeans. Actually it was because he was a psychopath without any normal
response, so he had to act out, like professional mourners at Chinese
funerals, who do it better than the real thing.
Murray Anderson
Karla's "signature style" was to not let the girls escape her house when
Paul left for any length of time. She could have saved both of the girls by
letting them go free. Too bad she got the sweetheart deal. She should be a
cell beside Paul until the day she dies. Instead she runs free having
children. I wonder how many people in the real world would want to be
Karla's kid??
Michael Snyder
2007-10-01 05:55:27 UTC
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Post by Murray Anderson
Bernardo's signature style was to express exaggerated grief and condolences.
He did this to my mother once over the death of an in-law about whom he knew
nothing. If people thought he was overacting they put it down to his
background, with a tendency to express grief more openly than northern
Europeans. Actually it was because he was a psychopath without any normal
response, so he had to act out, like professional mourners at Chinese
funerals, who do it better than the real thing.
Karla's "signature style" was to not let the girls escape her house when
Paul left for any length of time. She could have saved both of the girls by
letting them go free. Too bad she got the sweetheart deal. She should be a
cell beside Paul until the day she dies. Instead she runs free having
children. I wonder how many people in the real world would want to be
Karla's kid??
The female member of a serial killing couple almost always
gets the sweetheart deal.

Just as women who kill their husbands get enormously smaller
sentences on average than men who kill their wives.
t***@spamgourmet.com
2007-10-20 03:49:22 UTC
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this all raises the question of why there is so little vigilante
justice in today's canada or US. surely someone with moderate
determination and skill could SHOOT karla or OJ simpson dead, not that
such an act should be condoned. i simply marvel that they lead lives
without requiring 24 - hour protection, far as one can tell.

Hacienda de Ville
2007-10-01 06:44:51 UTC
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Wow, I bet you've made it into his "good books..."

HdV
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